tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post5299970264685261240..comments2023-09-22T06:32:28.817-04:00Comments on CARDIAC HILL - A Pitt Panthers Blog: Rooting For WVUAnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07075437868677050522noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-22329436772790215632010-03-30T08:20:04.250-04:002010-03-30T08:20:04.250-04:00Loser~Loser~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-73347054433561506472010-03-30T09:14:42.489-04:002010-03-30T09:14:42.489-04:00Lee, here is the problem with Pitt,just look at wh...Lee, here is the problem with Pitt,just look at what you said:<br><br>"having a great program for nearly a decade..."<br><br>Great? what are you talking about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-8182124638062985112010-03-30T09:26:35.071-04:002010-03-30T09:26:35.071-04:00Personally, I don't see how Pitt couldn't ...Personally, I don't see how Pitt couldn't be considered great in the past 10 years. From 2000-2009, Pitt ranks eighth in the NCAA in victories. In the past nine years, they've made the tournament and have an Elite 8 and several Sweet 16s to show for it. Further, they've been ranked #1 in the country during that time and have been in the top ten in the national rankings several times.<br><br>Great isn't the same as elite. Elite programs such as UCONN, North Carolina, and Duke make Final Fours and win National Championshpis. Pitt is not at that level yet, but when you finish in the top ten for wins over an entire decade, you're doing something right. I have no hesitation calling Pitt a great program over the past decade.Leehttp://eyeofapanther.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-81272738740836583902010-03-30T10:56:17.380-04:002010-03-30T10:56:17.380-04:00Pitt isn't just quite elite yet... getting the...Pitt isn't just quite elite yet... getting there.. and with jamie... i am confident it will.Rajhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14161370971976154832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-9969028666598173642010-03-30T11:13:55.564-04:002010-03-30T11:13:55.564-04:00Yes, I think they'll get there eventually. It...Yes, I think they'll get there eventually. It just takes a while to build programs up and Pitt was built up from practically nothing when Howland/Dixon came. Recruits are starting to get better and I would expect this team to be pretty good in two years.<br><br>Next year should be a little better than this year, but I'm not expecting a Final Four run. Two years from now should produce a very good team providing everyone sticks around.Leehttp://eyeofapanther.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-29423096144221611232010-03-30T12:00:28.542-04:002010-03-30T12:00:28.542-04:00Since when does being a B student for 10 years mak...Since when does being a B student for 10 years make one an A student?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-72721679119982152802010-03-30T13:06:52.851-04:002010-03-30T13:06:52.851-04:00I think we're just disagreeing over the defini...I think we're just disagreeing over the definition of words, really.<br><br>There are probably about 6-8 programs that I'd call Elite in the past ten years. Is Pitt as good of a program as Georgetown all-time? No. But in the past ten years? Absolutely. Over the past ten years, Pitt has been one of the best. Maybe not one of the 6-8 best, but one of the top 15 for sure.<br><br>I would put Duke, Kansas, North Carolina, UCONN, Syracuse, Michigan State, Florida, and Syracuse ahead of them for sure. Those teams have all won titles this decade. I'd give the edge to UCLA, too, with 2 Final Fours. But after that, I don't know how many teams you can say for sure have definitively had better decades than Pitt. That's off the top of my head. You may be able to name a couple more, but when looking at the entire decade, few teams have had the consistency that Pitt has. <br><br>Consistency isn't everything, but making a Sweet 16 is significant. No other team other than those listed above have more Sweet 16 appearances than Pitt (five). <br><br>I'd say Pitt is definitely one of the top 15 teams this past decade. Out of the 347 D-1 teams, that would place Pitt in the top 4% - 5%. And I would consider that great. Not elite, but great.Leehttp://eyeofapanther.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-45864031851251145332010-03-31T11:21:13.283-04:002010-03-31T11:21:13.283-04:00Your points are valid. My view is that "grea...Your points are valid. My view is that "great" is better than "elite". Yours is the opposite.<br><br>I am a Pittsburgh resident for 20 years, and A Mountaineer fan. I hear the words "great" recruits and "great" teams far too much when all they are is just average. Name a great team or player? The ones I can name are Dorsett and Marino. Sure a few good players and teams, but none "Great".<br><br>BY the way your dislike for WVU and Huggins? I feel the same about Pitt, mostly because of their condescending fans and media. As far as the unruly fans, I am for expelling them if they get out of hand, identifying them only by the city and state they come from. (many PA kids go to school at WVU and many hate Pitt).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-32997433190448225462010-03-31T21:37:48.224-04:002010-03-31T21:37:48.224-04:00Yeah, I think we just had a bit of disagreements o...Yeah, I think we just had a bit of disagreements on the actual word being used. I don't think Pitt is in the upper tier of teams right now and I certainly wouldn't place them there without making at least a few Final Four appearances or winning a title.<br><br>Regarding great teams, Pitt hasn't had any since the days of Marino and Dorsett. The past two years, I'd call them very good, but nothing more. I would, however, call Larry Fitzgerald great. He was for one season the best wide receiver in college football and could have easily won the Heisman as a sophomore.<br><br>Personally, I don't have a great dislike for WVU, despite the way my post may come across. I view them as Pitt's strongest current rival, and as such, cannot root for them. Further, as I mentioned, it's got to be hard for Pitt fans (it has been for me) to see WVU have a few good years this decade and make a Final Four, while Pitt has had nine straight 20-win/NCAA Tournament seasons and has not gotten there. <br><br>So as a Pitt fan, I'm obviously a little envious of the situation WVU is in. Further, WVU has what I consider to be the best team left, so I think they have a good shot at winning the entire thing. Huggins is a different story, though. I genuinely dislike him and have a problem with his past graduation rates. I can understand some down years with players graduating, but his teams have always struggled in that area. And I would expect you to dislike Pitt as well. It's just the nature of it.Leehttp://eyeofapanther.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-5654136857879076742010-04-02T01:50:34.156-04:002010-04-02T01:50:34.156-04:00What about Dixon and Wannstadt's graduation ra...What about Dixon and Wannstadt's graduation rates? Certainly no geniuses at Pitt either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4701938578128897356.post-14508111668834239912010-04-02T02:01:56.834-04:002010-04-02T02:01:56.834-04:00I don't hate WVU the team, but I do hate the f...I don't hate WVU the team, but I do hate the fans and the coach.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com